I've seen lots of talk about upgrading the valk. I was wondering what upgrades people think it should have?

I see in the wiki that the serco SkyProm is considerably better then the other Prom versions, whereas the IDF valk is only marginally better than the other versions.

I would vote for making the new IDF stats something like the following:

lvl requirements: 10/11/6/1/- and 990+ itani standing
armour: 12500
cargo: 0-3 cu ??? (I want 3, but I think it should be 0. An all out fighter should not have a cargo hold)
weapon ports: 3S
weight: 2750kg
trust: 240 N
spin torque: 9.0 Nm
combat speed: 70 m/s
turbo speed: 230 m/s
turbo energy: 55/s

This increases the armour by 1500 and adds to the thrust and speed, making it an ideal fighter :)

update: the price of the (new) IDF and SkyProm should be much higher (around 100k)???

the valk rune has a stupid requirement of mining 5 while it _no_longer_ carries 8cus. it's as stupid as tupid can get.

so, it would take out it's mining requirement and use that for the specs outlines above.

and if i was marginally good at 3D graphics, i'd draw you you what i'd call a valkyrie einheri.

And what IS 'einheri' besides a screen name? Google did not turn up much beyond that.

For the valks sake, I think we should have more valuable ores (sell for 10,000 a piece) in more dangerous areas, like constantly protected by queens and minions. This would put the faster smaller ships, to better uses in such situations.

Behold, the SUPER-VALK!

(The stats, by the way, is nuts.)

toshiro: from wikipedia:

In Norse religion the einherjar or einheriar were spirits of warriors who had died bravely in battle. The name is Old Norse for "one-army-ers" (singular would be einheri). It is often interpreted as "outstanding fighter", but might also signify "those who are all [now] in one army", because when alive on earth they were in many armies and bands, but now they are all in the Army of the Dead.

I think 3cu is the ideal: in VO combat operations, cargo space is valuable for picking up small items like the NSI or an Itani child widget, or even rare weapons or other add ons. A top level fighter like the IDF should be able to pick up such things, and 3 cu allows it to grab a rare battery dropped by an opponent.

Unlike WWL, I think the stats are good, but we may need to see the effect of the increased thrust on a tri-flare rig. Back in the day, such creatures were very nasty... but again, I'd rather see it become something in need of a nerf and prune back from there, so what the hell, that looks good.

One other thing: as long as the standing thing is working properly, I'd like to see the top line ships (SCP and IDF) for the military nations become available to POS holders *only*... seems logical and gives a reason for gaining such status.

Now... the Rune... siggggggghhhh. I'll make a new post on that later, but goddamn it's useless.

Dr. Lecter : have you ever thought about how putting a 9Nm torque on a 2750kg ship will do? Clearly you haven't.

It's ok! Go ahead, deploy this valk! I missed those "nerf the prom" threads that we used to post when the 650N/15Nm super-proms first came out.

Yeeaah. That kind of spin torque would be scary on a valk, even when loaded down with flares ><

/me shrugs

Too good, too crappy... whichever

Again, since no one feels like nerfing the prom in a significant way, buff the Valk to be equally cheesy.

Might I add that people keep saying the best way to take down a Prom is with multiple people, ie ganking. So Prom flyers should beware this.

The best way to take down any ship is by ganking.

The easiest way to drop either a prom or a valk, especially of the SCP or IDF flavors, should be either (1) multiple people or (2) another of those ships.

The prom isn't broken as it stands now; the valk is.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Quoted for preservation, Dr Lecter, "The prom isn't broken as it stands now; the valk is."

The prom, if you will recall, already got beaten with the nerf stick. What the hell do ya'll want: a narrower profile taur with a little more armor and an S-port instead of an L-port?

Quote me all you want, fuckers, the prom fits into its role in the game as it is now.

The Valk, however, is not the current superior light fighter. It's a potato; it's flare bait; it's AGT bait; rails eat it alive. Most people who fly lights go to the Rev C or IBG for all their combat needs; vults are more utilized by those who can choose between the two. Given the valk's alleged role in the game, I'd call that broken.

I'm with Lecter, I never fly the Valk, its far to easy to hit, and its not nearly as good as the IGB, which you can get a far lower levels. Its flare bait, far to easy to hit and get hit in, no fun at all. I like the current states posted here-in, exept the spin torque, that'd make it a bit hard to control, not considering the danger a computer controlled Valk would pose with that kind of spin torque.

More then anything else valkyre needs a slimmer profile.
For other changes I would suggest:
armor cut to 7000 hull, 4000 shield points added, weight reduced to 2800 kg, top speed upped to 230 and a small thrust/spin torque adjustment.

I've often wondered how it would appear with more flattened, angular sides... isosceles trianguar or so in cross section...

Aye Bo, I've been saying it for a while too. The valk would be fine if it just had a slimmer profile. No stats adjustments needed, just make it a bit thinner.

Changing the Valk's shape is something that won't happen for a while, judging how often devs add new 3d objects.