The purpose behind this thread is just to have people list what they have difficulty beating and in what order they would rank the ship types. This is NOT a thread that should be hijacked by "NERF THIS!!!" or "BUFF SO AND SO!!!" Just for informational purposes. Sure, some people may want the info from this thread for such a purpose, BUT, I ask that you make a new thread for that and link back to this one.

Also, one assumption, we're not talking about certain players, just on average, which ships you find hard to beat.

My Hardest to beat.
1) Centurion
2) Vult
3) Valk
4) Hog

Proms are not in my list because I don't fight proms often enough, thus, I do not have something to "average" in that case. I'm talking about averaging win/loss vs. ship type and I've fought enough* of each type of ship on my list that layouts should be relatively accounted for.

*What I consider to be "enough" may not be what you consider to be enough.

Depends on the pilot. IBG & Rev. C Centurians would have to be #1 for me because (almost) regardless of who the pilot is, they're tough to beat - a better pilot is of course more difficult to beat, but even a mediocre pilot in a Cent is bleery hard to hit. After that, Proms, which I can hit, but they hit me, too, and they generally win the armor race. I actually lose more to Proms than Cents, but Cents are more frustrating for me when I lose to them, because at least when I lose to a Prom I've likely hurt it a good bit, while when I lose to Cents I may not have hit them at all.

Other than the Cents and Proms, most other ships I feel I stand a good chance at winning against.

It's kinda funny, I feel like I can generally hold my own in light vs. light fights or heavy vs. heavy fights, but I'm not so good in light vs. heavy, regardless of whether I'm the light or the heavy.

1. Prom
2. Prom
3. Prom
4. Prom
5. Cent

Proms and Cents here.

1. Prom (For Rene: AGT+ Flare)
2. Centurions (not that they can't be beaten, but it does take forever,
For the same reason that we don't have shields, we should not have a ship this difficult to damage)
3. Flare Valks (Energy valks are reallly easy)
4. Tung Centaurs (theoretically more deadly than proms, but yet... not)

1) Centurions. impossible.
2) Vults. Impossible.
3) Anything with an AGT. I can't move out of the way fast enough.

Everything else is technically possible, so long as the enemy doesn't move

1) Shape
2) Shape
3) Shape
4) Shape
5) Shape

Nerfing required

That is amusing Beolach, I tend to be the opposite. I love the uneven matchups.

1) ShortBus
2) Bunchies UFO
3) Bunchies UFO #2

1. Cents
2. Superbus
3. Prom
4. Vult
5. Valk

I love fighting heavy ships and I can't stand those little buggers.

1. Shape in rev c
2. Matriarch in SCP agt+flares
3. Matriarch in SVG
4. Martin is SCP agt+flares
5. good pilots in rev c/ibg

1. Any ship piloted by a player.
2. Any ship piloted by an NPC. This includes unarmed traders.

1. Prom with AGT + Flares
2. Rag with AGT + Flares
3. Centaur with AGT + Flares
4. Warthog with AGT + Flares
5. Atlas with AGT + Flares

It's not the SHIPS that are hard to beat, since I usually fly a ship that will outmaneuver them, it's the weapon systems. Well, that and the decent pilots that know how to use them.

And I'm not saying that the weapons systems need to be nerfed, because they ARE beatable with a light fighter, they just require levels of skill and patience that I do not have.

I don't have the patience to fight a prom in a way that will ensure victory. I could stay out of range and pepper them with energy, avoiding flares, but that's just... boring for both parties and would take like 30 minutes.

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You have problems beating yourself?

I'm not gonn go there, but anyone else up for it?

mostly it is the pilot. i think perhaps the hot pilots typically fly certain ships so it makes those ships 'seem invincible' but in fact it may be a mental illusion. all ships have their weaknesses and strengths.

Roids

Rev c's and the itani cent. other then that, the prom has too much turn speed. tis' all.

Don't beat yourself up, Ayn. Plenty of other people would like the honor. ;)

1) Prom
2) Cent
3) rocket maud
4) flare/tach valk
5) Atlas of DOOM

1) Niki
2) Niki
3) Shape
4) G&%@#mn cents
5) F#@!*ing proms